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Why Game Tester Guide Sucks In '06

http://www.gamesetwatch.com/paidgames.JPG One of the most-commented-on articles in GameSetWatch history has been this discussion about GameTesterGuide.com back in March, pointing out the website which asks: "How Would you Like to Get Paid $9 - $80 an Hour to Play Video Games?", and then charges you $35 for the privilege.

It's pretty clear that the site hasn't got most people video game industry jobs (though one or two people seemed to get a refund, oddly). Whatever the specifics, the site is certainly on the suspect side, since, as a commenter points out, full-time tester jobs only start at $9.50 per hour for THQ, so claiming up to $80 per hour just for testing is pretty dodgy - quite apart from the fact that very little 'freelance' testing takes place, and you shouldn't have to pay to receive information on it.

Anyhow, we noticed that the site is still paying for Google text ads, and also has an affiliate program set up to lure more people, but its site has been redesigned to remove Alex Lum as the named 'lucky tester' - perhaps because GSW's last post comes up first in a Google search for Alex Lum, hah! Now, there's a new tester, 'Matt Lankford' from Minnesota, who gasps: "Video games are my passion, and I have always dreamed of making a living doing it. I just can't believe that it came true."

Of course, the example check he proudly shows for 'Game Testing- Game Glitches' is from a company called 'Lumco, LLC', and the person signing it appears to be... Alex Lum? Oh dear. Poking around on the site reveals older example game testing checks that are clearly FROM Alex Lum to Alex Lum, and the company in that last check seems to be located in Holden, NC (not very good use of black marks in Photoshop!), so sleuths are welcome to find out more.

In addition, looks like Lum has very similar sites about getting paid for surveys, such as PaidSurveyNetwork.net and a host of more complex websites, but Game Tester Guide, due to its semi-plausibility, is probably one of the better revenue sites for him, unfortunately. In any case, feel free to post more about your experiences with GameTesterGuide.com here, and perhaps we'll shoot to the top of the Google rankings again and warn more people off a potentially inadvisable payment.

Comments

I don't understand why people keep bitching about this site. Like all clickbank products, they are junk. And like all clickbank products, you can get a refund. Also, y single out this website. There are tons of other crappy sites like it. Like GameTestingGround.com, PaidGameTester.com, and GameTesterSecrets.

What is funny about this is I was actually considered purchasing this guide because I play too many video games and I said why not get paid for doing it. But, I noticed that the copyprint was sloppy and I decided to do a search on this "Lumco LLC" first and now I know this to be a scam. I will go back to doing beta testing for free instead of trying to get paid for it as long I enjoy the games im testing. Thanks for the info! You saved me about $40 to buy myself a new game!

Hah, I came across that inadvertantly when a friend posted a link to a soundtrack listing site. I think it was one of those pay-to-download things, I didn't pay too much attention when I saw that link. In any case, I could tell right away it was a scam. Who makes you pay for info like that? Why would a big-business company pay you with what appear to be personal checks, rather than actual payroll checks since you'd, technically, be on payroll? And why does this check have such a low, low number of 1005? Considering that they'd have to write an insane number of checks every week, not just for payroll but for basic expenses (I temped in accounting for a company once), the likelihood of their check number being that low is just... out there. Upon doing research on the company, Lumco LLC, I found references for a materials manufacturer, leading back to what would appear to be a band, and then this site. So... I'm glad I followed my instincts on this one. Wow, I'm getting better and better at spotting the scams.

Yea, I was just about to sign up for this, but then I figured "hey I wanna search this out first." So I tried a few things but only came up with more sites and such, then I seached the page for a company to search on google. The last thing I could find was Lumco so I tried that and this site is what I found lol. My question though is, are there any real pay to play video game sites out there, for finding glitches and whatever else like this website describes??

yes, we all get spam advertising jobs like that... Now at least I do play some games with a real cash economy which you can make money on, it isn't much, few pennies here and there :p a few dollars sometimes... not that steady but still fun, www.secondlife.com ( http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=ec8e63cfc42a769243315f7b13e196ed if you want to click a referal code :p ) That SL game is a good one to try out if you like to build stuff or if you know a little about event driven languages to do some scripting... since you keep all intelectual rights of whatever you keep and you can sell stuff, or run around and just party at the clubs :p Closest I have gotten to making money playing gmaes :p Although work is work, and it is a pain in the butt to make well designed stuff that isn't already created :p

I would like to hear from someone who actually made money with the Game Tester Guide. I was thinking of becoming an affiliate for them. How can you know if it is a scam unless you have tried it yourself?
Betty

I was surfing the net and so an advertisement It was a link to Game Tester Guide. I clicked on the link, and it's basically a website that says that they will pay you to test games, but the catch is, you have to buy their stupid program. Here is the link to Game Tester Guide:

gametesterguide.com
This webiste does look like a scam

However I found two other websites that claim they can get you a job as a Video Game Tester Here are the links,

gamertestingground.com
This site looks better than the game tester guide but still looks like a scam.

DreamWorkDollars.com
Out of the three this looks the most professional but does not state how much you can get paid.

So are these websites a scam?

DreamWorkDollars.com It certainly looks professional compared to the other two. They don't have any ridiculous some's of money you can earn stated on their website like GameTesterGuide.com and GamerTestingGround.com that make BOLD statements like "earn $80 - $120 an hour" come on not even a qualified computer programmer gets that much.

But this company does not seem to advertise as much as the other two, which in other words means this might be for real.

I really don't know if these websites are scams but there is a website that has reviewed all these websites and has rated them. Check it out at

websitesreviews.org

"I would like to hear from someone who actually made money with the Game Tester Guide. I was thinking of becoming an affiliate for them. How can you know if it is a scam unless you have tried it yourself?
Betty"

Looking over the form you have to fill out, it's clear that it's a scam. If the game is a test build, usually only the press receive it for preview purposes. Otherwise, it stays in the office.

Second, if it IS a test copy, then there should be a some bugs and things to work out. Based on the simple questions they ask on the form, there's no way they would pay someone that much to give their opinion on such basic things when they could just do a free sit-in at a mall and get people to try it out for free. Why would they pay you for something like that?

Real game testing is rigorous and thorough (for the most part). How do I know this? Because I worked at Namco Bandai Games in the Bay Area as a Quality Assurance Tester and trust me, this is a scam. No one would pay you up to $80 to fill out such a simple form. On a daily basis, I go through 3-4 sheets of different checklists. On top of that, I have to keep an eye out for bugs, glitches, and anything out of the ordinary.

Of course, game testing is still fun, and it can be easy albeit a bit repetitive, but in any case, I'd advise you to look elsewhere if you're interesting in becoming a game tester.

Check out gametesterguide.com/ThankYou ....That is what you get if you've paid for it

Hey man (anonymous) your 100% Right this "is what you get if you've paid for it" gametesterguide.com is a fucking SCAM.

Thanks dude you saved my money, I was thinking of buying this shit.

Yeah thanks anonymous, I was so going to pay for that guide but by posting that link, you showed me it's a scam!

Thanks for posting that link anonymous. I was actually going to buy this rip off guide.

Wow, am I glad I checked this site out first! I was so close to buying that guide. I excel at video games and thought it would be nice to play games for cash. Gametesterguide.com almost had me. I'm glad there are people out there looking out for the true gamers. My only question is, are there any Real game testing jobs out there for true gamers and if so where are they found?

There are many scam websites out there that are saying you get paid huge somes of money playing games. Here is the list of these scam websites that I found on google:

www.gamertestingground.com
www.gametesterguide.com
www.gametesterguide.net
www.only4gamers.com

Just to let everybody know out there that www.gametesterguide.com has CHANGED its NAME to www.only4gamers.com

Probably because of all the people that have spoken up against this scam.

I would like to thank the blogger of this page "Simonc" who has saved mine and many others money by showing what a scam this website really is. AGAIN JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WWW.GAMETESTERGUIDE.COM HAS CHANGED ITS NAME TO WWW.ONLY4GAMERS.COM

There are so many of these scams online. I done a google search on these keywords:

game tester guide scam
gamer testing ground
only 4 gamers

I am glad that I did not buy these scam guides.

Thanks to the blogger of this page.

thanx too this site ive saved myself the time money and embarissment of subscribing too this scam thanx for this truly yours Mike G

hi, i found this site

videogamesuppliers.net/

Do you think is a fraud too?

I was really considering of buying one of these guides. I knew this was to good to be true and after I read these reviews I have to say these websites are definitely scams. These scamster companies should be shut down and sued including their affiliates.

So is there any kind of company or freelance marketplace for game testers?

Thank you all for you comments you saved me money.After reviewing the comments I had a challenge. What was this challenge? to find a real job as a game tester and share the info with all of you.So check it out. unfortunately it's not as easy as paying $40so for all thats interested here you go.

http://jobs.ea.com/pljb/global_jsp/applicant/DisplayJob/JobDetails.jsp?display=1&pljbHome=/ElectronicArts/United_States/applicant/index.jsp&id=4176

Hi,

I can confirm that videogamesuppliers.net is reputable I bought their guide and it was really usefull.

John

I'm so glad I just stumbled onto this site I was going to actually buy one of those trashy scam game testing guides until I read the comments on this page.
Thanx alot for saving me my money and time but is there any real game/beta testing jobs out there?... Please email me if you find anything REAL at DrkDragonDemones@aol.com
Thanx again
Jasmine

thanx everybody for helping keep my damn money in my pocket. I was this close to buying gametestersguide, its a real big ass scam

I WOULD OF LOVE TOO DO THE SITE BUT LIKE OTHER COMPUTER SCAMS LIKE WINNING LOTTERY ETC.ETC. THANKS FOR THIS INF. I'M GLAD YOU GUYS ARE OUT THERE ,THANKS AGAIN.

I paid $30 for gametesterguide.com and didn't hear anything from them for a month then i threatend to take legal action and got my money back through pay pal

By the way all, I notice a guy by the name of 'Micheal' earlier, sugesting to try websitereviews.
I would avoid that site completely as it states it has reviewed over 20 companies and listed the 3 best (actually lists 4, lol).
Could it be someone is trying to earn 75% commsion from each of these companys?!
Well..... I THINK SO!!!

P.S. Micheal... We Know You Are The Real Affiate HERE!!!

For those of you that think that just because a site doesn't advertise as much or looks genuine, remember that those sites could be there to lure you away from the obviously fake sites. As it was stated, if work was meant to be fun it wouldn't be called work. Be careful of what you purchase when it comes to get rich quick sites. Oh, here's the complete file in PDF format http://www.gametesterguide.com/files/PlayVideoGamesForMoney.pdf

Anyone who has any job opportunities for a 15 year old male in the game testing category, contact me at drchip2@yahoo.com

videogamesuppliers.net is got to be a fruad also because if you look at the site carefully you'll notice that its the same text color and design as gametesterguide.net so be careful and watch for the little details.

Hehe, the first thing that came up in my mind was: "this has to be a scam site", im always very cautious with these kind of things. So i went and researched it and came to this site. *if this only was for real, it would have been nice, but all of those things sounds to good to be true*

*remember this slogan: If it's too good to be true, it probably is!*

Thanks for all the info everyone has contributed. just ot update you, its called gamertesingground.com

Has anyone ever tried the actual gaming companies websites?

I don't really know them all, I just got into PS2 X-men games, and thot it might be cool to see about playing for free.

Plese keep all the comments a comin, its a gr8 help.

GameTester.com
O I met GameTesters.com
Quad Venti Latte.
I'm not sure that this guy is sponsered console by any company roots. Look this guy up! Another to the list?

hey guys thanks for the info about all these scams. I was thinking about buying into this bull shit until i read all of this. I'm also trying to get a job. I'm almost sixteen and trying to get my feet wet in the gaming industry. If you have any real info on a place where I can do this, send me an email at ian@crooks.net

You can get paid to play video games but the most you get paid is like 12 bucks and hour not 120.. anyway thanks for this blog it will save a lot of people money including myself

Came really close to buying and took my old mans advice to research something before you get it. Darn glad i did.... was gonna go for the full 24 month thing too.

Thank you very much.

Came really close to buying and took my old mans advice to research something before you get it. Darn glad i did.... was gonna go for the full 24 month thing too.

Thank you very much.

Thanks again for all the info everyone. I'm in grad school right now, and swimming in debt...have been looking for a bit of extra work that i can manage online to make enough to repay some of it. A popup advertising gamertestingground almost fooled me into thinking this might be valid and fun. If anyone happens to know of any valid sites for paid game testing, please send me a note and a link to jfreak13@yahoo.com.

I'm not sure how I got to the site, but the gamertesting webby popped up.
I read it through, was somewhat suspicious when the guy sighted another website which had asked for money off him and he had been scammed, my first thoughts were... "and how are you any different".
I did a quick google search which then pretty much confirmed my suspicions, two seperate websites with the same review of gamertesting.com, I know of no one who would right a review of a product or service and then go around pasting it everywhere, it's fairly obvious it belongs to the website itself.

This is how real game testing looks like. It aint easy. All those who worked in QC department or as scientist will know that measuring and documenting flaws is tedious.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_tester

"It's the money!" DJ Shadow reference, "why hip hop sucks in '96" nice

anybody know a real game testing site im 15 and need some cash if you have info contact me at----> zpebody@yahoo.com

Yes - the site at the top is definitely dodgy - i would never pay to be a video games tester because they are the ones that are going to be paying you!

I have found some sites that pay you to play games online - this is limited to online skill games, not real video games:
http://www.paid2review.co.uk/get-paid-to-play-games-online.html

Hope this helps some people...

On the gametesterguide website he says he has been a game tester for 4 years.... then he shows one of his "first" checks which is dated April 19 2006... so thats four years in the last year and a half?

Yea i think its pretty good to test games BUT i want to sign up without paying and i can get payed because i am 15 years old and well i can not trust anyone because i got my money out of my bank all of it and my DAD went mad so can you please make me sign up for free and i need a apply to get games to test Thanks GoodBYe

~I just wanna' say thank you guys so much for saving me and other true gamers money, believe it or not, as a college student, being broke and all, I need money and i thought, why not, it's money for having fun but, i was about to pay for a twenty four month membership about half an hour ago until I came across this and probably would have ended up even more broke, thank you, and if there is any actually reliable info. about game testing, please reach me at my e-mail, albgarcia88@hotmail.com

I am gald you've written this review and pointed out the blatant money making by the site, it's a disgrace for true gamers

http://www.friendsandmoney.co.uk/page4surveys.html

Hey does any one know how to get a game testing job at a company that lets you do remote testing(that's where they send the product to you and you do the testing at home and then fill out the proper paper work and then send it back and they send you a check in the mail for your work)I'm finishing my schooling and would like to get some experience and extra cash. If anyone knows anything please e-mail me @ bth_myrs33@hotmail.com Thanks!

^ I don't think it works that way man.. I wish it did though.. Hell, I think a lot of us would be rich now.. lol..

You'll need to find a local game industry in your area and apply for a job. But the pay sucks.

They are now posting these scams on sites like yahoo hotjobs, etc!

It doesn't help that all the games they have listed were all tested by unpaid testers. In fact, I don't even think there's such a thing as a paid beta/alpha anymore. I think that was the old console generation that actually saw the paying of testers, and that's because it was easier to pull a geek locally and pay him a bit to test their game than try to find qualified testers abroad. Then the internet grew and saw the new generation of testers, the unpaid yet dedicated types.

Hey everybody, check out some of the pictures he has on his file server, lol. http://www.gametesterguide.com/sitebuilder/images/

my favorite is one of.. i guess of his drunk friend? lol
http://www.gametesterguide.com/sitebuilder/images/matt-164x123.jpg

HAHA: don't listen to these people I have worked on game testing for 2 years and it is great. And it was all because of www.gametesterguide.com: Don't post something bad about a site unless you have got scammed by it. Email to me thanking me after you buy it and you get a good game testing job. Email is agrippinonick1994@yahoo.com

I work in the video game industry, and NO company will pay large amounts of money for testing jobs. Most QA jobs start at about $8/hr. And most publishers now ship games overseas to India and China for testing because its much cheaper. This site is a scam.

I work at home for a company & I was looking for something like this for my son. It is very very rare for companies to pay you to test games at home for money.
You can find where they let you test at home & maybe they let you keep the games sometimes.

When I started working at home it didnt cost me a dime.
So any job including game testing if you must pay to get it , it probably is a scam!

NEVER PAY FOR A JOB, THEY ARE OUT THERE TO WORK AT HOME AND YOU DONT PAY TO GET THE INFO FOR THE JOB OR TO GET THE JOB!

It would seem that Gametesterguide.com, Gamertestinggrounds.com and only4gamers.com are all scam sites made by the same group or persons. My guess is as each new website is identified as a scam, they create a new one.

The gaming industry is exploding atm and most pregame phase beta testing is done by gamers wanting a sneak peak at future games. As games become more technical in the future, im sure the need for skilled educated testers will increase, as will the pay.

GL in your job hunting, just dont be surprised if there isnt much out there that pays more then $12 an hour.

Tnx for the info. Have a close look at the game testing ground competition winners pics http://www.gamertestingground.com/winners.html The hand writing on the little notes look 'strangley' similar(especially the PS3) and if they're so proud of what they "won" then why arent their faces shown(and holding the station)??

(This will probably change your mind about testing video games.)

Thanks for all this info. I figured from the beginning these sites were all a bunch of BS. You can tell when a site is fake because no site looking for gamers will have BIG FONT and unorganized layouts. All of this they send you games and you send in reports is full BS also. If you wanna be a Game Tester, sign up for Beta Game Testing, Many companies offer it, BUT their is a catch you DON'T GET PAID. The only way (That I know) to get a REAL JOB and you GET PAID for video game testing in becoming a QA (Quality Assurance) Tester, AKA Game Tester, To get a Job like this It's not easy and you get paid roughly 11.00/hr and you have to live in a certain place to do it (so if you live in LA heres something for you).

Here are some Requirements:

This job posting is for Electronic Arts Los Angeles ONLY.
LOCAL CANDIDATES only please.
Pay Rate = $11.00
40-70 hours a week, OT is Mandatory.

Candidate Requirements

- A wide range or scope of experience or interest in gaming on a variety of platforms
- Self motivated, superb work ethic, desire to make world class games
- Effective interpersonal, verbal and written communication skills
- Ability to take direction and effective listening skills
- Ability to troubleshoot and fault isolate, sometimes within severe time constraints
- Sharp attention to detail, highly analytical
- Aptitude to learn quickly and effectively
- Excellent organizational skills
- Willingness and ability to remain focused in a driven, high pressure, team-oriented environment
- Intermediate PC software/hardware knowledge
- Microsoft Word and Excel competency
- Minimum high school graduate or equivalent

Desired Skills

- Bachelors Degree or equivalent
- CS Degree or equivalent
- Advanced software/hardware knowledge
- Prior testing experience
- Experience following testing processes and methodologies
- Familiarity with all phases of the software product development cycle
- Understanding of QA measurement/metric techniques

Primary Responsibilities

- Identify and isolate issues with pre release software
- Report and Track issues
- Verification of fixes
- Regression testing
- Stress testing
- Work with other testers, engineers, lead testers and manager
- Prepare/execute test scripts
- Evaluate test coverage
- Ensure work is completed in accordance with project deadlines
- Qualitative Feedback, including evaluating content and suggestions for improvements
- Verification and proofreading of product manual/documentation
- Undertake research, including competitive analysis

Secondary Responsibilities

- Determine appropriate test strategies
- Verification of specified product goals
- Assist in training of newer testers
- Identify risks to assigned area
- Provide input to test schedule
- Identify improvements in test process


Hey for all you guys looking to get rich without working!!! Get a gun stake a bank out and Rob it!! Make sure you have a mask on and run real fast after you get the money. You will have just as good of a chance getting away with it as you would making money off the internet . But atleast you know you will get some money if you get away with it. Good Luck :)

I am a game tester for a affiliate company of Sony Entertainment and I sure as hell don't get paid $40/hr or more to play games and find glitches. They highest paid game tester I know makes $18/hr and they have a degree, and are fluent in several different languages. So yeah I smell scam with this whole thing.

LOL!!!

Desired Skills

- Bachelors Degree or equivalent
- CS Degree or equivalent
- Advanced software/hardware knowledge
- Prior testing experience
- Experience following testing processes and methodologies
- Familiarity with all phases of the software product development cycle
- Understanding of QA measurement/metric techniques

All this and they only pay $11 an hour and require 30 hours of OT a week! You'd HAVE to be an idiot. I don't know who's the bigger scammer, EA or gamertestingground.com!

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